Curse

blackstarling · Jul 15, 2009, 04:09 AM // 04:09

If you were one of the people who read my previous post: "Accidental Trade - How to Report Someone?" then you already know what I'm talking about. If not, here's a quick synopsis: I accidentally gave a player 75 platinum (instead of 75 gold) in exchange for 1 vial of green dye. I tried to ask for it back, but he put me on ignore. I asked some people to PM him, and they did, but then he put them on ignore also. I posted the above thread to this site and then just came to terms with my loss. This is how it ended:

One of the readers of the post went out of her way, met me in game and gave me 20 ectos for free.

Example 1 - A perfect stranger gave me goods worth even more than I lost. She's a good person and she made a difference. I'd like to ID her here so she can get the respect she deserves, but I'm afraid others would be tempted to harass her for hand outs... She can claim herself if she wants!

Other players were PMing the player for me and asking him to reverse the trade.

Example 2 - Strangers were taking time out of their day to try to help someone they didn't know recoup gold she lost because she was too stupid to pay attention. They don't know me, they don't owe me anything. They had no reason to think that talking this guy would result in anything, but they did anyways. Integrity is doing the right thing, even when no one else is watching. These people have it.

Then the strangest thing of all happened - Today, out of nowhere, the guy contacts me, meets me, and gives me all of the money back.

Example 3 - Regardless of why he did it, this guy didn't have to give me the money back. No one was going to force him into giving it back to me. No matter how many screenshots I took, people I told, or PM's he got, nothing could force him to give it back. But he did it anyways. Even if he did it because he was tired of getting messages from people, he still did it. And I think that shows that there's more good in this guy than I originally thought. So it might have taken some active encouragement from others, or maybe some time for him to think it over... whatever it was, all ended well. And as I told him today, so long as everything is back to the way it should be, the incident might as well not have happened at all.

Say what you want about me, but I added the guy to my friends list and vice versa. What's that saying? Something like it's better to choose the evil you know instead of the evil you don't? Basically, I already know what his shortcomings are. I mean, in my opinion, you don't really know a person until they finally open up enough to let you see their weaknesses. So hell, we're already past that point now! Heh - this guy could turn out to be a reliable GW partner. In the end, I haven't lost anything and I gained a pal.

Good people DO exist in online gaming and they CAN make a difference. Many people forget who they are and who they should be the minute that they sit down in front of the computer. After all - no one knows who you are so what do you have to lose? I'll tell you! A fun, sociable, friendly playing environment! If you're a jerk, you're killing it for everyone including you! Moods and attitudes are contagious, even online, and maybe even especially online. (I for one have been inspired by the kindness of the people mentioned above and have already passed it on!) For those folks who just want to solo their way through the game, that's cool. But keep in mind, there are portions of the game you can't experience without interacting with other players... (Trading tomes for instance.) And one day you might be the one who accidentally trades someone way too much money... who would you rather be dealing with? A jerk, or a player with a little integrity? They DO exist. (If you want proof, just be one.)

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fenix · Jul 15, 2009, 04:16 AM // 04:16

The question is, did you give the 20 ecto back

Mad Lord of Milk · Jul 15, 2009, 04:19 AM // 04:19

Sorry, but the number of assfaces outnumbers the good people. Good people have no influential power here in GW because TEENAGERS ARE PLAYING THE GAME. They'll just shoot down anyone who's nice for giggles.

blackstarling · Jul 15, 2009, 04:20 AM // 04:20

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Originally Posted by fenix

The question is, did you give the 20 ecto back

LOL... not yet, but yes, I've already sent her a message asking her to meet up with me to get them back.

shoyon456 · Jul 15, 2009, 04:26 AM // 04:26

Ah, I was one of the people that tried pm'ing for you!

, glad to see some ppl rose to the occassion and that the guy changed his mind and did the right thing. And to the above poster, i AM a teenager.

That has happened to me, and instead I've been arse F*ck'd. Its why I'm always careful when trading and dropping things.

And Im glad it worked out for you, but I don't think people should be rewarded for a mistake (the guy who gave you the ecto). Gifts shouldn't have conditions, otherwise alot of ppl would be qq'ing over "accidental" trades. Errr, they already do though... lol

Patar · Jul 15, 2009, 04:27 AM // 04:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Lord of Milk

Sorry, but the number of assfaces outnumbers the good people. Good people have no influential power here in GW because TEENAGERS ARE PLAYING THE GAME. They'll just shoot down anyone who's nice for giggles.

And what if people like me are part of that nice group of people? Even though I'm 15, I'm hoping I'm no exclusion.

blackstarling · Jul 15, 2009, 04:35 AM // 04:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoyon456

And Im glad it worked out for you, but I don't think people should be rewarded for a mistake (the guy who gave you the ecto). Gifts shouldn't have conditions, otherwise alot of ppl would be qq'ing over "accidental" trades. Errr, they already do though... lol

I don't know her exact reasons for doing it. She said she felt sorry for me because of the mix up. I'm pretty sure that it wasn't meant as a reward. She told me that she had oodles of ectos and gold and she was on her way out to another high value farming run and it wasn't a big deal to her. (Because yes, I originally didn't accept the offer.)

The way I see it, I would do the same thing if I was in her situation. She was helping someone out who didn't have as many resources as she did and it wasn't going to hurt her any. I told her that I felt horrible accepting such a huge gift and I couldn't give her anything in return. So she made me agree to help others out when I saw a chance to do so in the future. Later that evening when trying to sell the ectos some fella PM'd me and asked if I'd give him one just because he was a good guy. I laughed and said okay, but he'd have to tell me what made him a good guy. Convinced by his reply, I dropped him one for free and then took him for a few runs in Nahpui Quarter so he could pick up some Celestial weapons.

I don't think it was a reward for my stupidity so much as it was just a simple, but meaningful helping hand.

arcanemacabre · Jul 15, 2009, 04:39 AM // 04:39

Hey. Where are my ectos? I've done stupid things in the past; I've probably earned thousands of them!

j/k glad it worked out for ya in the end.

AngelWJedi · Jul 15, 2009, 05:06 AM // 05:06

i had been cheated before usually its only like a few K thankfully. and lots of times people payed me to much and i was able to give back the rest before they left the dis. so next time do like i do and say you have lag to give you time to triple check your item/money.

ShadowsRequiem · Jul 15, 2009, 05:10 AM // 05:10

You actually took the 20 ectos? thats awful.

What Now · Jul 15, 2009, 05:11 AM // 05:11

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Originally Posted by Mad Lord of Milk

Sorry, but the number of assfaces outnumbers the good people. Good people have no influential power here in GW because TEENAGERS ARE PLAYING THE GAME. They'll just shoot down anyone who's nice for giggles.

Age is no excuse for poor manners and is neither an indicator. Sad part is lots of people really are corrupt and when faced with an anonymous front act in a way truely becoming but there will always be good even if it's ill received.

KoKoS · Jul 15, 2009, 05:12 AM // 05:12

Shhhh don't say i'm good.. >.<
you'll ruin my reputation >.>

xD

Messy · Jul 15, 2009, 05:17 AM // 05:17

I'm glad it all came to a good end

@ shoyon456: Don't assume the reason why this person gave her ectos was to reward a mistake, that really doesn't make a lot of sense. Personally, I'd rather believe that it was done in good faith to help a fellow player.

In the end, this is not about ectos, it's about somebody realizing that just because you hide behind an avatar it doesn't mean you can't have some sort of integrity. I think that guy coming to that realization is priceless.

I have to say, the way this all ended put a smile on my face.

Nerel · Jul 15, 2009, 05:27 AM // 05:27

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Originally Posted by Mad Lord of Milk

Sorry, but the number of assfaces outnumbers the good people. Good people have no influential power here in GW because TEENAGERS ARE PLAYING THE GAME. They'll just shoot down anyone who's nice for giggles.

Defining a 'good player' is somewhat difficult, when the OP related her story of the 'bad trade incident' she also stated that she had asked on the local channel for other people to contact the trader who got lucky due to her mistake, and ask for her money back, I can't remember, but Blackstarling might have even asked others to report the so called scammer...

This is not the behavior of a good player, indeed is contrary to the Rules of conduct that she quoted in defense of her actions...

"While playing Guild Wars, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players. You will not report players maliciously, or cause them to be investigated without reason."

Good players, that is people who are nice, not necessarily 'good' at the game do exist, probably quite a few of them, but they tend to get drowned out by the excessively noisy bad players, who are often the point of contention, the subject of forum threads, or the aggravating ass hats making a public nuisance of themselves.

Divine Ashes · Jul 15, 2009, 05:53 AM // 05:53

Yeah, I can't believe you actually took the 20 ectos in the first place lol. But, congrats on witnessing an actual positive aspect of the human race. They're rare, so cherish it!

Soopa · Jul 15, 2009, 05:58 AM // 05:58

Yes, good ppl do exist but alongside some that aren't good also... It's like in real life. Sadly but true...

He took those 20ectos so what? The person that gave him those has enough for her own use (she knows why she gave them). I think the thing that counts, is that he appreciates the gift he got!

Just yesterday my friend got sceamed for believing in goodnes of ppl inside guild (we come from a guild that was just friendly based and we were like a family, most unfortunatley stopped playing till gw2. We could really trust each other with everything). He never thought someone would steal from him. It was a stupid thing to do but well... we learn from our mistakes. He feels especially bad because it's something i gave him to use. But I don't care...
I'm happy as long as ppl appreciate my kind nature and don't abuse it. Things can be allways farmed in one way or another. It just takes time...

Tho I wish there were more kind ppl arround. But I'm happy to see that ppl still intend to help each other.

Cheers to them all kind souls out there!

Ugh · Jul 15, 2009, 06:03 AM // 06:03

This story makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

AKB48 · Jul 15, 2009, 06:10 AM // 06:10

Of course they exist.......when you can get a touching-enough story going which touches their hearts.

Zera Fang · Jul 15, 2009, 06:12 AM // 06:12

-Blink- Wait... You were buying green dye from another player? Unless green dye has suddenly sky rocketed in price and rarity, you could get it from a dye trader for just a few gold more. If you had 75 platinum on you... Some pitiless amount like 25 gold lost is nothing. And who doesn't keep all the dyes they find? I'm sorry, but you're a dick for coming onto a forum and whining about how you lost so much due to your own recklessness AND THEN getting people to bug the guy until he returned your funds. Snaps for you in harassing someone or, at least, telling people to harass someone until they returned your money instead of facepalming and telling yourself, "Man, I'm a tard. I better triple check before I trade in the future."

subarucar · Jul 15, 2009, 06:34 AM // 06:34

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Originally Posted by Mad Lord of Milk

Sorry, but the number of assfaces outnumbers the good people. Good people have no influential power here in GW because TEENAGERS ARE PLAYING THE GAME. They'll just shoot down anyone who's nice for giggles.

By posting a comment like that you are almost showing youself to be part of that steriotypical immature teenaged GW player thing. Im sure you will find many adults in game who are rude and will "shoot down anyone who's nice". Please dont become ageist, its starting to become as bad a rascisim and sexism.